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Property is inheretly theft. Property applies to what is Not you and what is NOT mine especially with the top 1% of the world owning 80% of the world's wealth in a "Cash" monetary form....

what entitles anyone person to more stuff than the next? nothing

poor people work hard, middle class work hard, rich people work hard

poor people don't work hard, middle class people don't work hard, rich people don't work hard

many poor people don't work, many middle class don't work, many rich don't work

what entitles a poor person that works to a higher lifestyle than the poor person that doesn't work? NOTHING

No one knows why a poor person doesn't work...there are many reasons - could be welfare, could be they are too sick

No one knows why a rich person doesn't work....there are many reasons - could be inheretence, could be cause they just choose not to.

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Trade allows us to specialize in just one thing, actually making the world much more efficient....

"What is wrong with using only what you have?" Unless you're good at farming and you own several acres of land that are perfect for growing a balanced diet of foods, you'll starve to death. That's what is wrong with it.

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So you're suggesting then, not that we get rid of trade, but to go back to a direct barter system? Where we have to spend all of our free time searching for those who posses the goods that we need?

Wouldn't it be much more efficient to create a marketplace where we can more easily find our goods? Perhaps we could call that marketplace WalMart? And we could pay the organizer of WalMart a small markup for the convenience of shopping in one place! Then we'd have more free time to produce our own good... making us more efficient.

I'm not even sure how to address your comment on how competition leads to a gap between the rich and poor... that doesn't even make sense! Have you ever studied Econ 101?

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Even the poorest people today in our country are better off than most farmers 200 years ago. Even most Native Americans refuse to hunt & gather, and sleep in tepees anymore. Have you ever tried to grow a garden? It is a lot of work. I'd much rather flip burgers than be a farmer. You really need to think about what you're saying!

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You need to log off your computer and get to work then. The amish might welcome you into their society if you're nice.

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If you're running your own farm and living off of what you grow then why wouldn't you be able to survive? (Other than the fact that you're probably too lazy to actually succeed at it.) "Monetary value" is simply a means for exchange. You are always free to not trade or barter without money.

You really just don't get it. Go take econ 101 and then consider sharing your views when you have at least a slight clue of what you're talking about.

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Yes we can survive without trade. This reminds me of my post I created. The one year economic plan for America" I think we must stop trading and most relief for about one year. We need to put that back into our economy and let Americans prosper again. I will keep up with the economic debate, among other things.

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That is the thing which you are not understanding. Merely surviving is not important. Living a comfortable life is. I agree to your point to an extent that there should be balance between luxury and healthy life which could be attained with hardships. Means Not so luxurious but still reasonable. But as far as going to the stone age. Mark my words that you will be the first to run from the hard life which you are advocating.

For the sake of arguments we would need computers even if we were surviving on farming because we still had to communicate with each other and solve other problems in that life even. Communication is still necessary. Now don't tell me on the next post that people of this age will be patient for letter posts and arrivals. Imagine I am living in New York and order for wheat seeds from California because New York can't produce the sufficient amount. I post a letter to Californian wheat company and they send the product in four weeks. First two weeks will be consumed in the communication process only. Hahahh. What a joke. DrWord change your user name from DrWord to Lotus 123. Atleast it is an old program which runs in DOS. Or Grandpa would be better. No offense just kidding. By the way what point you wanna make? Aren't you getting my point?

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Computers should not do everything for us. But Computers should do somethings for us. We shouldn't be lazy to depend on machines totally. But we can't live without machines completely even. If we won't build tanks and use horses as cavalry. Other countries will conquer us in nano seconds. They will eventually be a threat to our survival. The very same survival you are talking about.

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Every one doesn't have the same thinking. If everyone would have the same thinking as you want it to be. Then there would have been no countries. No separate identities. No separate cultures. No religous, social or regional differences. No evil and no Good. This thinking of yours is totally illogical and impractical. We are not living in an Ideal world. We are living in a world where we can make choices up to some extent.. Our aims and objectives are also according to our resources. Why won't other countries? Why not? Do you say only the American people want to conquer? You are mistaken. Every one wants to rule. You are not every one. So it is good to think about a fantasy world to run away from the hassle of today's life. But in this process you will gain nothing and only lie with yourself. When you give an arguement you should also state a fact supporting it. Just saying a thing doesn't make it that way.

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