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wayway2tall 4 months ago
No one's lying! There is no bill yet. All that exists is Obama's plan for health care reform (the 1000 page mofo) and a bunch of possible bills that are being worked on by congressional committees.
Patriot Watch, if you think that the government option is going to take advantage of you, then don't sign up for the public option. Keep on doing whatever it is that you're doing for healthcare now. But the fact of the matter is that the majority of people who are offered government run healthcare (medicare, medicaid, veteran's association, congressional healthcare [you know they can afford whatever plan they want]) use it, and are happy with it. Fact is, this country is going to go bankrupt if we don't fix healthcare in this country. Because the baby boomers are going to start retireing, and medicare and social security are going to pull the rest of the country under with them.
So go ahead and keep paying thousands of dollars to people whose only goal is to make money off of your suffering and your death. Insurance companies make HUGE sums of money because they're gotten very good at figuring out who they can deny coverage to at just the right time for their profits to soar.
Patriot Watch (Independent) - 4 months ago
Reply to Rosetteismyname
most of what your saying here sounds like a "Fishy" lie
most of what your saying here sounds like a "Fishy" lie
NO Obama lies. he said two days ago a conservative lie is that abortions is in the bill. Obamas right it is not in the bill but under current law unless they put it in as a footnote as non-coverge it IS>
FREE ABORTIONS for all. Fun Saturday- Govenment hospital room on Monday. Big bubbles NO troubles
Patriot Watch (Independent) - 4 months ago
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the current appeals in place are meant to be drawn out in hopes you die b4 the end.... they aren' … Show full comment
the current appeals in place are meant to be drawn out in hopes you die b4 the end.... they aren' … Show full comment
what are you talking about? A governmment commity will decide if you can go see a chiropractor and for how long if at all. That is what this is telling you.
There gonna tell you to stand on your head and you will want to sit on your hands and you will not be able to unless you pay a doctor 100% out of pocket because government said NO and you CANNOT appeal.
Patriot Watch (Independent) - 4 months ago
Reply to Rosetteismyname
most of what your saying here sounds like a "Fishy" lie
most of what your saying here sounds like a "Fishy" lie
Oh and people are yelling and screaming because OUR government DOES NOT listen to us. these people are smart enough to know it is a done deal. they KNOW because they KNOW our government will not provide better coverage.
Obama said so today would you like me to pos tthe video for you.
Patriot Watch (Independent) - 4 months ago
Reply to Rosetteismyname
most of what your saying here sounds like a "Fishy" lie
most of what your saying here sounds like a "Fishy" lie
one of my best friends had brain surgery and is filing medical bo. I get it.
The people in this country who will not have the government option will be less than 15%. that 15% will include your government
Patriot Watch (Independent) - 4 months ago
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the current appeals in place are meant to be drawn out in hopes you die b4 the end.... they aren' … Show full comment
the current appeals in place are meant to be drawn out in hopes you die b4 the end.... they aren' … Show full comment
Rose i have never said I am against reform. I'm all for it. There is a TOn they could do but they will not. It is not about giving people health care. If it were they would sit down and think about it.
Rosetteismyname (Centrist) - 4 months ago
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Would you like more info. But just think. FREE ABORTIONS for all. Show full comment
Would you like more info. But just think. FREE ABORTIONS for all. Show full comment
most of what your saying here sounds like a "Fishy" lie
Patriot Watch (Independent) - 4 months ago
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You wish it weren't true! However the core of the statements made are very true. You said, " … Show full comment
You wish it weren't true! However the core of the statements made are very true. You said, " … Show full comment
Would you like more info.
But just think. FREE ABORTIONS for all.
Rosetteismyname (Centrist) - 4 months ago
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Page 30: A government committee will decide what treatments and benefits you get (and, unlike an ins … Show full comment
Page 30: A government committee will decide what treatments and benefits you get (and, unlike an ins … Show full comment
the current appeals in place are meant to be drawn out in hopes you die b4 the end....
they aren't in place to help you
I have private health insurance 80/20 was the best plan I could pick! That stinks...20% of any hospital bill is still a lot of money! What would you pay to save your life? No one should go broke trying to live!
it is a moral question
not a legal one, not a financial one
Patriot Watch (Independent) - 4 months ago
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You wish it weren't true! However the core of the statements made are very true. You said, " … Show full comment
You wish it weren't true! However the core of the statements made are very true. You said, " … Show full comment
• Page 427: Government mandates program that orders end-of-life treatment; government dictates how your life ends.
• Page 429: Advance Care Planning Consult will be used to dictate treatment as patient's health deteriorates. This can include an ORDER for end-of-life plans. An ORDER from the GOVERNMENT
Patriot Watch (Independent) - 4 months ago
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You wish it weren't true! However the core of the statements made are very true. You said, " … Show full comment
You wish it weren't true! However the core of the statements made are very true. You said, " … Show full comment
Page 95: The Government will pay ACORN and Americorps to sign up individuals for Government-run Health Care plan
Patriot Watch (Independent) - 4 months ago
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You wish it weren't true! However the core of the statements made are very true. You said, " … Show full comment
You wish it weren't true! However the core of the statements made are very true. You said, " … Show full comment
Page 59: The federal government will have direct, real-time access to all individual bank accounts for electronic funds transfer.
Patriot Watch (Independent) - 4 months ago
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You wish it weren't true! However the core of the statements made are very true. You said, " … Show full comment
You wish it weren't true! However the core of the statements made are very true. You said, " … Show full comment
Page 30: A government committee will decide what treatments and benefits you get (and, unlike an insurer, there will be no appeals process)
Patriot Watch (Independent) - 4 months ago
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You wish it weren't true! However the core of the statements made are very true. You said, " … Show full comment
You wish it weren't true! However the core of the statements made are very true. You said, " … Show full comment
Page 65: Taxpayers will subsidize all union retiree and community organizer health plans (example: SEIU, UAW and ACORN)
Patriot Watch (Independent) - 4 months ago
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You wish it weren't true! However the core of the statements made are very true. You said, " … Show full comment
You wish it weren't true! However the core of the statements made are very true. You said, " … Show full comment
Page 50: All non-US citizens, illegal or not, will be provided with free healthcare services.
Patriot Watch (Independent) - 4 months ago
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You wish it weren't true! However the core of the statements made are very true. You said, " … Show full comment
You wish it weren't true! However the core of the statements made are very true. You said, " … Show full comment
Page 42: The "Health Choices Commissioner" will decide health benefits for you. You will have no choice. None
Rosetteismyname (Centrist) - 4 months ago
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This is a false statement health reform will improve the lives of Americans with and without insu … Show full comment
This is a false statement health reform will improve the lives of Americans with and without insu … Show full comment
You wish it weren't true! However the core of the statements made are very true.
You said, "Have you read the bill?"
If you've read the 1,000 pages of that bill then so have I as well!
Patriot Watch (Independent) - 4 months ago
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"yelling and the shouting and the noise,” health reform will improve the lives of America … Show full comment
"yelling and the shouting and the noise,” health reform will improve the lives of America … Show full comment
This is a false statement
health reform will improve the lives of Americans with and without insurance now.
Have you read the bill? If your gonna want an abortion........it's covered> So I guess it does improve the lives of liberals
Patriot Watch (Independent) - 4 months ago
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"yelling and the shouting and the noise,” health reform will improve the lives of America … Show full comment
"yelling and the shouting and the noise,” health reform will improve the lives of America … Show full comment
Relax your gonna get it. You have control. Now our freedoms will be gone. Thanks
Change 250 million peoples health care for 50 million. Thanks
This isnt reform it's a take over.
If they wanted reform they would reform it. they are not. They are taking it over. And YES I get to fund American w***e abortion with this bill and abortions overseas.
This is great. You liberals are killing kids all over the world. Congrats
Rosetteismyname (Centrist) - 4 months ago
"yelling and the shouting and the noise,” health reform will improve the lives of Americans with and without insurance now. "
Very true... He wants to exclude pre-existing conditions, exclude insurance companies from reniging on their contracts or diluting coverage for people who become extremely sick - this is the current situation today!
It is long over due. No one should fear that the health insurance company will not deliver services they charge for - but they constantly do!
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