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Patriot Watch (Independent) - 8 months ago
Reply to wayway2tall
I don't care if one patient in Canada decided to go to the mayo clinic in Minnesota (one of the most … Show full comment
I don't care if one patient in Canada decided to go to the mayo clinic in Minnesota (one of the most … Show full comment
lets not start making things up. Go get your ripple and cigs and be pissed off about people doing better than you because you are a liberal rat.
I've read you're stupid posts that claim that most people are stupid (as if that were a reason that their opinion didn't matter) and that the leaders and liberals of this country should be exterminated. FU<K YOU!
Typical Liberal Socialist.......have no facts or figures so make some stuff up
Your done because you are not worth the time of day. Your a robot who cannot think for himself so the Democratic Party is a necessity for your survival.
One day try to stand on your big asz feet. It feels good if you give it a try.
wayway2tall 8 months ago
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Because the government is trying to sustain the country You have to be kidding me? Again liberals … Show full comment
Because the government is trying to sustain the country You have to be kidding me? Again liberals … Show full comment
I don't care if one patient in Canada decided to go to the mayo clinic in Minnesota (one of the most respected hospitals in the world) so that she could use her considerable wealth to get immediate care. That really has nothing to do with a public plan whose aim is to increase the quality of life for the people who are too poor (because they are unskilled, and under-educated) to pay for privatized health insurance. But of course if you consolidate that into a talking point like "Canadians come to America for healthcare because they don't get the kind they want in Canada" it suddenly sounds like a great argument. And that's all you care about, having an argument that makes you sound right. You don't care at all about other people's lives, other people's opinions, or the even the survival of this country. I've read you're stupid posts that claim that most people are stupid (as if that were a reason that their opinion didn't matter) and that the leaders and liberals of this country should be exterminated. FU<K YOU!
Patriot Watch (Independent) - 8 months ago
Reply to wayway2tall
Where to begin with you? You are a hateful, pathetic, tiny little man who needs to belittle other … Show full comment
Where to begin with you? You are a hateful, pathetic, tiny little man who needs to belittle other … Show full comment
Because the government is trying to sustain the country
You have to be kidding me? Again liberals tag people with hate and race when they do not know how to respond
I gave you facts and figures. Stats brother. Not empty BIG corporations....george Bush....Oil...etc etc etc
nothing has changed but your party now rules. it's business as usual because of people like you. PERIOD>
The people will be in the streets soon. It will be because of people like you walking lock step with the people who sold us out. I am not violent person but if pushed to the streets I hope I meet you.
your govenment sold you out and your still playing the fool. The people need to come together to flush the filth out of government. Just happens to be more dirty liberals right now than conservatives. The people ran them off and will start to run off this group in 2010.
i can't explain how pitiful of a person you are. Illinois LIBERA:LS have srewed up this state. They are doing it at the federal level and all you can do is blame business.
Well see if you have the balls to stick around here till 2012.
What a load of crap this was. I have given you several articles from CANADIAN papers. CANADIAN DOCTORS< PATIENTS and admin. and you fire back a hate letter.
I LOVE when the people who lecture me on my tone come back with the same tone than try to justify it.
Did Obama or Acorn, SDIU, or Appollo send you three losers here to try and knock me down. You, SDU and pssonu all speak the same crapz. It's like your a three headed monster.
If you want to see how a real democrat with real issues and real facts debates please see Jeremy, Beth Daisy, Mrs Prez or lighthouse. The three headed monster could not wipe those liberals back end.
So go ahead and use your freedom of speech to speak against a government whose intentions are to protect you.
Oh my GOD your funny brother. The above sentance speaks volumes for you and your opinion.
Good day freakazoid.
Your cut off brother. You are not worth a scratch on my asz. You enter the list with Kristieanntryingtofar. I'm trying to make money to support socialism in AMERICA and don't have time for you or I would donate time to a local day care. Better company and better conversations.
When you see what an abortion this Marxist is making I hope you get ill over it. Seriously
wayway2tall 8 months ago
Reply to Patriot Watch
Seriously! Your a serious idiot. Do you have to medicate to sleep at night? As part of a plan to … Show full comment
Seriously! Your a serious idiot. Do you have to medicate to sleep at night? As part of a plan to … Show full comment
Where to begin with you?
You are a hateful, pathetic, tiny little man who needs to belittle other people's legitimate viewpoints because nobody listens to you in real life. I joined this website because I wanted to understand the viewpoint of those who felt differently than me, and I wanted them to understand what I had to say as well. But thanks to you, I realize that many have no wish to understand why others feel differently than they do.
You're a smart guy (I bet you really like hearing that), at least smart enough to hit cntrl+c, cntrl+v to paste your ridiculous articles. I don't care if one patient in Canada decided to go to the mayo clinic in Minnesota (one of the most respected hospitals in the world) so that she could use her considerable wealth to get immediate care. That really has nothing to do with a public plan whose aim is to increase the quality of life for the people who are too poor (because they are unskilled, and under-educated) to pay for privatized health insurance. But of course if you consolidate that into a talking point like "Canadians come to America for healthcare because they don't get the kind they want in Canada" it suddenly sounds like a great argument. And that's all you care about, having an argument that makes you sound right. You don't care at all about other people's lives, other people's opinions, or the even the survival of this country. I've read you're stupid posts that claim that most people are stupid (as if that were a reason that their opinion didn't matter) and that the leaders and liberals of this country should be exterminated. FU<K YOU!
And I know just what you're thinking, "Typical liberal, when he loses the argument he gets mad and doesn't want to talk about it anymore." Win your stupid argument. It doesn't matter. But if you ever become ruler of this country, I'm buying every gun I can get my hands on, and plaiting wherever I choose to live with Kevlar. Because if you ever became ruler (I say ruler because if you were president, no legislators or justices would let you have your way, because there ARE checks and balances) anarchy and nuclear war would soon follow your ordination. You are so short sighted and so selfish that you can't even see how radical and wrong you are.
But of course, it all comes back to hate with you. Hate for the government, hate for liberals, hate for what you call "stupid people". I bet you hate your parents too, but you still won't move out of their basement. What you fail to realize, is that this country once was run exactly as you would have liked. Government had no say in economic issues and allowed corporations and business's to police themselves, it did nothing to intervene in foreign affairs other than to protect this country, the people were allowed to carry guns almost anywhere they pleased, and if a tax collector asked you for more than you thought was fair, all it took was un-holstering your pistol and he would never bother you again. Doesn't that sound cool? Well the wild west and the mid- 1800's are over. Most of us in this country learned our lessons from that time period and are now ready to continue to move civilization forward. But if that's the way you want to live, try joining the Peace Corps and living in a third world country. Or if you'd rather carry a gun, go join a drug cartel in Mexico and live that Jon Wayne lifestyle that you admire so much.
You're no patriot. You think you understand America because the buzzwords freedom and liberty were thrown at you in elementary school. I bet you think that the bill of rights was written to protect your constitutional rights. Well you're wrong. The bill of rights was written to protect everyone else's rights, and you should feel honored (as I do) that you have a government that will protect those rights whenever any threat, foreign or domestic, imposes on those rights.
"O, but government is trying to take away my right to choose what health care plan to pay for" There is no right to choice. It's not in the constitution, nor should it be. A country is possible because of the efforts of many to unite behind one common goal. If you disagree on the goal, fine try to change it. But to refuse to participate, and to belittle the people who are trying to, would be an act of treason in most countries. So go ahead and use your freedom of speech to speak against a government whose intentions are to protect you. After all, you'd be just fine if it weren't for the government right? There would be absolutely no problems if gas companies were allowed to put the price of gasoline at $300 a barrel (which I can guarantee they would do if not for government intervention) or if crime rates returned to where they were in 1970 before Roe V. Wade went into effect. The country would be fine if in the 1930's Roosevelt didn't ensure a pension plan for every American so that they would work for compensation less than what their labor was worth. Without government we would live in a paradise, where you could trust such private industries as home security, food preparation, and mass transit would look out for your life and your interests, and not short term cost reductions or bribes to ensure quarter by quarter profits.
I feel the way I do because while I don't trust the government (you know very well the lies that politicians are willing to tell to save their careers) I trust corporate America far less. And no amount of marketing, arguments to the contrary, or donations to charity will ever change that. Because the government is trying to sustain the country, and corporations are trying to make enough money that so that one day they can hire a militia, and maybe then they won’t have to do what the government says.
Patriot Watch (Independent) - 8 months ago
Reply to wayway2tall
I don't know how people get away with telling these lies, and I wonder what their justification is f … Show full comment
I don't know how people get away with telling these lies, and I wonder what their justification is f … Show full comment
Seriously! Your a serious idiot. Do you have to medicate to sleep at night?
As part of a plan to create a "blueprint" to transform this country's health-care system, the Canadian Medical Association approved a resolution to implore governments and health authorities to "examine internal market mechanisms, which could include a role for the private sector, in the delivery of publicly funded health care in Canada."
"The vast majority of Canadian doctors believe there is an urgent need to fix Canada's health care system," outgoing association president Robert Ouellet said later at a news conference at the organization's annual convention, which is being held in Saskatoon this year.
"The physicians of Canada are serving notice that we are tired of the dogmatic, ineffective and faux public/private debate continually derailing any and all attempts to build a health-care system that serves patients."
Patriot Watch (Independent) - 8 months ago
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PW, here is the correct quote from the Dr. Anne Doig s interview: "The physicians in each coun … Show full comment
PW, here is the correct quote from the Dr. Anne Doig s interview: "The physicians in each coun … Show full comment
Obama is looking to crush competition and the rest of the world is adding it. I use to have respect for you but you have proven to be a robot.
You do not support reform but take ove just like way2stupid
As part of a plan to create a "blueprint" to transform this country's health-care system, the Canadian Medical Association approved a resolution to implore governments and health authorities to "examine internal market mechanisms, which could include a role for the private sector, in the delivery of publicly funded health care in Canada."
"The vast majority of Canadian doctors believe there is an urgent need to fix Canada's health care system," outgoing association president Robert Ouellet said later at a news conference at the organization's annual convention, which is being held in Saskatoon this year.
"The physicians of Canada are serving notice that we are tired of the dogmatic, ineffective and faux public/private debate continually derailing any and all attempts to build a health-care system that serves patients."
Would you like more current events for Canadain health care?????????
Patriot Watch (Independent) - 8 months ago
Reply to wayway2tall
I don't know how people get away with telling these lies, and I wonder what their justification is f … Show full comment
I don't know how people get away with telling these lies, and I wonder what their justification is f … Show full comment
You are without a doubt on some socialist pay roll. You are not only an idiot you must be married to Salverygirl.
All you have to do is go to google robot. Type in health care & Canada and click news.
Canadas curent health care system is like an abortion.
You are an illinois nazi robot....................................
Like so many of the system's frustrated patients, health-care reform in Canada seems stuck in the waiting room.
Ballooning budgets have failed to deliver timely care as other countries outpace Canada's ailing universal health system.
But while the diagnosis that change is urgently required is broadly accepted, the issue is polarized around the two extremes of "public versus private".
It's a mirror image of the current heated debate in the U.S., where President Barack Obama has been labeled a "socialist" for trying to introduce a government insurance plan that would give coverage to millions of Americans who can't afford private health insurance.
Obama's opponents can't -- or won't -- see the middle ground as they fight for the status quo.
Health reformers in Canada are trying to do a "reverse Obama" -- introduce more private delivery in the public system -- and running into the same kind of closed minds. And when critics, including some doctors, warn about reformers wanting to create a two-tier or even an "American-style" health system, politicians tremble and continue to tinker with Band-Aid solutions, rather than risk major surgery.
All of this was on the mind of Dr. Robert Ouellet Tuesday as he gave his final address to the Canadian Medical Association (CMA) before stepping down as president. Speaking at the CMA's annual conference in Saskatoon, Ouellet cited the results of a CMA study of five European countries -- England, Denmark, Belgium, The Netherlands and France -- that found targeted funding, accountability and new information technology had helped create health systems that were out- performing Canada's.
He noted that their "reliance on the private sector was not seen as a sacrilege, but rather as a complementary adjunct when the public sector was not up to the task. "In France, for example, 60 per cent of elective surgeries are done in private institutions and are paid for with public funds." In Canada, Ouellet noted, "We cheerfully give ourselves an "A" when we manage to do hip surgeries within six months. In other countries, this would rate a failing grade." Ouellet warned that resisting fundamental change could usher in the very "two-tier" system many fear, suggesting that if baby boomers don't get the quality of service to which they feel entitled, "they will systematically and massively turn to the private sector".
Despite the misgivings of some physicians the conference voted 85 per cent in support of a resolution imploring governments to "examine internal market mechanisms, which could include a role for the private sector, in the delivery of publicly-funded health care in Canada." At this point, a massive dose of open-mindedness is called for -- and the kind of political courage that gave birth to medicare in Saskatchewan in 1962.
Patriot Watch (Independent) - 8 months ago
Reply to FreedomGirl
PW, here is the correct quote from the Dr. Anne Doig s interview: "The physicians in each coun … Show full comment
PW, here is the correct quote from the Dr. Anne Doig s interview: "The physicians in each coun … Show full comment
Thanks for the article. She backs everything Americans are worried about. it is all discussed in this article. Did you read?
They discuss almost every conceivable problem here. What don't you get Slaverygirl?????
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New CMA president Anne Doig urges medicare repairs
SASKTOON -- Anne Doig, a Saskatoon family physician and longtime medical leader, was elected to the position of Canadian Medical Association president last summer in Montreal, but she will officially take over for Dr Robert Ouellet this week, here in Saskatoon. Dr Doig's got a pedigree when it comes to medical politics: her father was among the physicians who opposed NDP premier Tommy Douglas's creation of medicare in 1962, and her brother Chip will be the 2009-10 president of the Alberta Medical Association.
Even more impressive than the depth of her experience in medicine and health policy is the fact that Dr Doig has accomplished what she has in those areas while also making time to have six children, own a grain farm, swim competitively and stay involved with swimming tournaments.
Before the beginning of this year's CMA annual meeting, she spoke to Canadian Medicine about health-insurance reform, the Canada Health Act, abortion (sort of), swimming, and more.
SAM SOLOMON: What do you hope to achieve as president?
ANNE DOIG: I think I’ve already laid out some of that in the material that is circulating. Essentially what this boils down to is taking the information that Dr Ouellet has gathered, learning from GC [CMA General Council] what the membership thinks about that information and the current situation, going out to the membership to ask what we should do -- and, parenthetically, some of that work is already being done through an online forum with Asklepios -- because we need to know what members think needs to be done. I think we need to improve effectiveness and efficiency. What do we think can be done to improve the system? That helps us when we’re asking government to look at new funding models and to make hard decisions about what the public system is really willing to cover. At the moment, government -- and I use that in the lowercase-“g” sense, because it’s governments of all stripes -- all of them hide behind saying “We have the best medical system in the world, and medicare is being threatened!” This is not about medicare being threatened. This is about making it work over the next 50 years. It’s done a reasonable job for 50 years but it is not sustainable.
Can you give some specifics on the kinds of effectiveness and efficiency improvements you have in mind? I know Dr Ouellet mentioned Advanced Access.
He stole my example! But Advanced Access is not just limited to primary care. It is not just about family docs. For instance, there is a urology clinic here in Saskatoon that uses it. The principles of Advanced Access do apply, can apply, to specialists' offices. And one of the hidden inefficiencies in our system – and I deliberately use the word “hidden” -- is no one is quantifying and talking about things like wait times between my decision to refer a patient for a non-urgent or mildly urgent – if you know what I mean -- to a specialist and when that specialist actually sees the patient. For example, if I see an elderly patient in my office this week, as I did on Monday, and I make an initial referral to have one of the orthopedic surgeons see her about changes of arthritis in her hip, thinking that somewhere down the line she might be a candidate for a hip replacement, it's going to be, who knows? Six months? Nine months? 12 months before that patient is even seen? Then she gets on the list to have whatever diagnostic tests need to be done over and above what I've already done, and then she gets on a surgical wait list. And no one is out there measuring, because it really can't measured because we have no way of capturing that data – you know, what's that timeframe between family physician assessment and the specialist? How can we help the specialist to improve management in their offices to match the improvement that family physicians and trying to make?
There are a whole different set of access problems for emergency care, of course.
And of course what it's resulting in is a domino effect of everything. You've heard about the domino effect of patients not being able to be discharged appropriately from hospital, so that plugs the acute care beds, so that then puts pressure on the emergency room and you can't admit patients. There's another domino. Another domino is the domino of what happens when doctors know their patients are waiting way too long for specialist consultations: they end up pushing the urgent button as a mechanism to get their patients seen more expeditiously. There are things that we as physicians can try to do. And some of these are answers to a fundamental shortage of human resources. We don't have enough bodies on the ground so we have to find a way to make the bodies that are available to us able to do their jobs more effectively, and effectiveness is the second thing I want to talk about. That's where the quality agenda comes in. So, are there things we can do that would improve the quality of care that we are offering? There are organizations like the Saskatchewan Health Quality Council – and I know there similar bodies for the other provinces – that are looking at those questions and saying, “Here, look, here's an example in post-miocardial infarction care where we can give you some specific pointers on which interventions and what to do to be effective in looking after these patients.” Certainly in primary care we have models out there for chronic disease management, for hypertension, for heart failure, for diabetes management. Those are quality initiatives, and if physicians are able to take the time to step back from their own practices and look at what they are doing and implement some of these suggestions, then that's another way of improving the quality of care.
You have mentioned more than once, I believe, that you’d like to de-emphasize the public-vs-private aspect of the health reform question.
It's a surrogate for scaring patients, you know? I mean, let's tell people [sarcastically] their healthcare is being threatened because the doctors are bad people and want to bring in the private sector. That's simply a scare tactic. We have to engage the public to say, “Look, folks, here are the real costs, here is the real situation. You want your care. How do you want it paid for?” And of course the cop-out answer is “I always want it free and I don't want to pay anything.” Sorry! We all know that's not sustainable. And we all know that models in other countries – wherever we're looking at things where there's a single route, then those models are failing.
What other routes do you want to see? Supplementary health insurance?
I think we have to look at some form of diversifying the revenue streams to pay for the care people are getting, while at the same time improving the product that they are getting, so that we can lower costs by improving some of the product. But at the same time we have to find additional dollars. So for example Dr Ouellet will talk about models in other countries where there is private insurance but it's mandated by government and everyone in the country has insurance. It wasn't one of his countries from the European tour but Israel is an example of that kind of model. In that model the government picks up where the insurer -- or where the person is not employable or not employed, then government steps in and pays a premium so that people are always insured.
Do you believe, like Dr Day and Dr Ouellet, that the Canada Health Act’s restrictions on private insurance are detrimental to the healthcare system?
I think the whole point is the principles that are articulated in the Canada Health Act – you know, principles around access, principles around affordability, principles around transportability, that kind of thing – those are basic, fundamental principles. The principles may not need not change. But where the Act has strayed into being prescriptive about process, perhaps government does need to look at that and say, “We revised legislation for every other type of legislation that covers benefits or services, or even the rules of road.” I mean, all those things get changed over time -- they're not static. Why is the Canada Health Act seen as a static piece of legislation? Its principles may be static, they may be inviolable, they may be principles to die on. But how we interpret that in the context of the current reality is, I think, open to debate.
There is almost daily stream of fear-mongering in the United States about the evil Canadian healthcare system with its horrific wait times and Communist rationing. It seems like that can't help but to have some effect on how Canadians feel about our system in some way. Do you think the CMA has a role to play in countering the criticism from the US?
I don't think the CMA has a role to play in engaging in the US debate.
I guess I mean as it pertains to the Canadian system. There have been all sorts of accusations from US groups recently about what is wrong with Canada's model or how we're rationing care for the elderly, etc.
Well, I have to tell you parenthetically that one of the things that the CMA wants to see improved is the availability and provision of care for those who require longterm care. We are acutely aware that the provision of longterm care is inadequate in Canada. So part of my point is it really irritates me when inflammatory rhetoric is used instead of people being able to engage in debate. There is a problem in longterm care in this country. People need to wake up and smell that coffee, and the CMA is certainly not going to be shy in giving that message to the public. However, what this whole US thing says to me is, you know, it’s the two-headed hydra. The physicians in each country are looking at the systems and saying, “You guys, the system is about to implode. It's going to fail.” And the US guys are saying, “Oh, my god, we don’t want Canada.” And Canadians are saying, “We don’t want the US.” Okay. Both of us need to sit down, each in our own jurisdictions, and come up with something that works for our citizens and for our doctors, and go forward. I mean, I think one thing that the US finger-pointing has done is it's made some Canadians who were complacent – you know, they were content to sit back and think, “Oh yeah, I've got the best healthcare system in the world” -- maybe they're realizing that, oh, maybe it isn't. And people who individually have experienced things that are not quite right, people who have experienced long waits, people who have been sent home with services -- they may have thought they were individuals and something bad happened to them but, overall, the system is good. Maybe some of those people are now beginning to realize the problems are far more systemic than they thought.
Patriot Watch (Independent) - 8 months ago
Reply to FreedomGirl
PW, here is the correct quote from the Dr. Anne Doig s interview: "The physicians in each coun … Show full comment
PW, here is the correct quote from the Dr. Anne Doig s interview: "The physicians in each coun … Show full comment
But this is exactly what happens too often when things are free. Health care costs $6 million per day in NB. That makes $2.2 billion per year which represents close to 50 per cent of the total financial budget for the province.
With such staggering numbers if nothing is done to change the situation, 'implosion' will become inevitable in the not too distant future.
Making health care somewhat 'less free' might just encourage some people to better take care of their health and be less of a burden on a system that is all but ready to collapse
Patriot Watch (Independent) - 8 months ago
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I don't know how people get away with telling these lies, and I wonder what their justification is f … Show full comment
I don't know how people get away with telling these lies, and I wonder what their justification is f … Show full comment
Canada's U.S. backup care "speaks volumes to why we don't need government to take over health care," Scott Hagerstrom, the state director in Michigan for Americans for Prosperity, said of the Canadian arrangements with Michigan hospitals. "Their system doesn't work if they have to send us their patients."
Patriot Watch (Independent) - 8 months ago
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PW, here is the correct quote from the Dr. Anne Doig s interview: "The physicians in each coun … Show full comment
PW, here is the correct quote from the Dr. Anne Doig s interview: "The physicians in each coun … Show full comment
Canada's U.S. backup care "speaks volumes to why we don't need government to take over health care," Scott Hagerstrom, the state director in Michigan for Americans for Prosperity, said of the Canadian arrangements with Michigan hospitals. "Their system doesn't work if they have to send us their patients."
Patriot Watch (Independent) - 8 months ago
Canada's U.S. backup care "speaks volumes to why we don't need government to take over health care," Scott Hagerstrom, the state director in Michigan for Americans for Prosperity, said of the Canadian arrangements with Michigan hospitals. "Their system doesn't work if they have to send us their patients."
Patriot Watch (Independent) - 8 months ago
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I don't know how people get away with telling these lies, and I wonder what their justification is f … Show full comment
I don't know how people get away with telling these lies, and I wonder what their justification is f … Show full comment
The agreements provide "more immediate services for patients whose health is at risk," Jensen said.
Three Windsor-area hospitals have arrangements with Henry Ford Hospital, Detroit, to provide backup, after-hours angioplasty. Authorities will clear Detroit-Windsor Tunnel traffic for ambulances, if necessary. The Detroit Medical Center also provides Canadians complex trauma, cancer, neonatal and other care.
"In the last few years, we've seen more and more Canadian patients," said Dr. J. Edson Pontes, senior vice president of international medicine at the DMC. They include Canadians such as Mercado, whose care is reimbursed by Canada's health system, as well as people who pay out of pocket to avoid waiting in Canada.
Patriot Watch (Independent) - 8 months ago
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PW, here is the correct quote from the Dr. Anne Doig s interview: "The physicians in each coun … Show full comment
PW, here is the correct quote from the Dr. Anne Doig s interview: "The physicians in each coun … Show full comment
The agreements provide "more immediate services for patients whose health is at risk," Jensen said.
Three Windsor-area hospitals have arrangements with Henry Ford Hospital, Detroit, to provide backup, after-hours angioplasty. Authorities will clear Detroit-Windsor Tunnel traffic for ambulances, if necessary. The Detroit Medical Center also provides Canadians complex trauma, cancer, neonatal and other care.
"In the last few years, we've seen more and more Canadian patients," said Dr. J. Edson Pontes, senior vice president of international medicine at the DMC. They include Canadians such as Mercado, whose care is reimbursed by Canada's health system, as well as people who pay out of pocket to avoid waiting in Canada.
Patriot Watch (Independent) - 8 months ago
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Told by Canadian doctors in 2007 he couldn't have the procedure there, Mercado's family and doctor appealed to Ontario health officials, who agreed to let him have the transplant in Detroit in January 2008.
The Karmanos Institute is one of several Detroit health facilities that care for Canadians needing services not widely available in Canada.
Canada, for example, has waiting times for bariatric procedures to combat obesity that can stretch to more than five years, according to a June report in the Canadian Journal of Surgery.
As a result, the Ontario Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care in April designated 13 U.S. hospitals, including five in Michigan and one more with a tentative designation, to perform bariatric surgery for Canadians.
Patriot Watch (Independent) - 8 months ago
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PW, here is the correct quote from the Dr. Anne Doig s interview: "The physicians in each coun … Show full comment
PW, here is the correct quote from the Dr. Anne Doig s interview: "The physicians in each coun … Show full comment
Told by Canadian doctors in 2007 he couldn't have the procedure there, Mercado's family and doctor appealed to Ontario health officials, who agreed to let him have the transplant in Detroit in January 2008.
The Karmanos Institute is one of several Detroit health facilities that care for Canadians needing services not widely available in Canada.
Canada, for example, has waiting times for bariatric procedures to combat obesity that can stretch to more than five years, according to a June report in the Canadian Journal of Surgery.
As a result, the Ontario Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care in April designated 13 U.S. hospitals, including five in Michigan and one more with a tentative designation, to perform bariatric surgery for Canadians.
Patriot Watch (Independent) - 8 months ago
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I don't know how people get away with telling these lies, and I wonder what their justification is f … Show full comment
I don't know how people get away with telling these lies, and I wonder what their justification is f … Show full comment
The story reported that socialized medicine has created a shortage of doctors, nurses and other clinical staff. As of March 31, a survey found a 5.2 percent vacancy rate in these critical fields, compared to a 3.6 percent vacancy rate a year earlier. According to the Times, "Qualified nurses and midwives are retiring at a greater rate than newly trained staff can enter the professions." A poll conducted by the Royal College of Nurses found that among 8,600 young people, aged 7 to 17, "only 1 in 20 considered nursing to be an attractive career."
Patriot Watch (Independent) - 8 months ago
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I don't know how people get away with telling these lies, and I wonder what their justification is f … Show full comment
I don't know how people get away with telling these lies, and I wonder what their justification is f … Show full comment
The British media are conflicted. They patriotically defend the NHS, while simultaneously acknowledging its serious shortcomings. One example: A recent Daily Mail editorial praised the NHS for its free care and universal availability, but then added, "Our survival rates for breast, prostate, ovarian and lung cancers are among the worst in Europe, despite huge additional expenditures." Free is nice, but best is better.
Patriot Watch (Independent) - 8 months ago
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PW, here is the correct quote from the Dr. Anne Doig s interview: "The physicians in each coun … Show full comment
PW, here is the correct quote from the Dr. Anne Doig s interview: "The physicians in each coun … Show full comment
The British media are conflicted. They patriotically defend the NHS, while simultaneously acknowledging its serious shortcomings. One example: A recent Daily Mail editorial praised the NHS for its free care and universal availability, but then added, "Our survival rates for breast, prostate, ovarian and lung cancers are among the worst in Europe, despite huge additional expenditures." Free is nice, but best is better.
FreedomGirl 8 months ago
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This is great! What an awesome post. talk about misleading. Dr. Anne Doig says patients are gett … Show full comment
This is great! What an awesome post. talk about misleading. Dr. Anne Doig says patients are gett … Show full comment
PW, here is the correct quote from the Dr. Anne Doig s interview:
"The physicians in each country are looking at the systems and saying, “You guys, the system is about to implode. It's going to fail.” And the US guys are saying, “Oh, my god, we don’t want Canada.” And Canadians are saying, “We don’t want the US.” "
http://www.canadianmedicinenews.com/2009/08/new-cma-president-anne-doig-urges.html
wayway2tall 8 months ago
I don't know how people get away with telling these lies, and I wonder what their justification is for doing so.
Patriot Watch (Independent) - 8 months ago
This is great! What an awesome post. talk about misleading.
Dr. Anne Doig says patients are getting less than optimal care and she adds that physicians from across the country - who will gather in Saskatoon on Sunday for their annual meeting - recognize that changes must be made.
"We all agree that the system is imploding, we all agree that things are more precarious than perhaps Canadians realize," Doing said in an interview with The Canadian Press.
"We know that there must be change," she said. "We're all running flat out, we're all just trying to stay ahead of the immediate day-to-day demands."
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