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Pulling Granny's Plug Pulling Granny's Plug

Submitted by dcherry17 | 7 months ago

www.thepoliticus.com - What is it with the crazies with the guns at the town halls complaining about the health-care reform death panels? There are no health-care reform death panels.

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countryplowboy 7 months ago

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good thing i have th OPTION to keep my current care!

Unless you have to change it even the tiniest bit. Then you have to take the government option.

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dcherry17 7 months ago

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Can't wait to hear you say that when your denied healthcare for some reason the government finds imp … Show full comment

good thing i have th OPTION to keep my current care!

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KristiAnn (Democratic) - 7 months ago

reps went from humorous to pathetic to annoying all in the last few months. they will find anything wrong with the bill. its soooo aggravating. argg

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countryplowboy 7 months ago

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we will see. this is what will happen, economy will come roaring back right before the midterm elect … Show full comment

Can't wait to hear you say that when your denied healthcare for some reason the government finds impairs your cost effectiveness.

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dcherry17 7 months ago

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Yawn ROBOT Yawn it will pass. Republican will be voted in 2012. Than you can blame the GOD aweful … Show full comment

we will see. this is what will happen, economy will come roaring back right before the midterm elections and in 2012 the healthcare system will be changed for the better!

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Patriot Watch (Independent) - 7 months ago

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can't wait to see the bill. It's not in the bill. The cuts are directed to make things more efficent … Show full comment

Yawn ROBOT Yawn

it will pass. Republican will be voted in 2012. Than you can blame the GOD aweful system on conservatives

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dcherry17 7 months ago

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Medicare officials recently proposed changes that could increase payments for some primary care serv … Show full comment

can't wait to see the bill. It's not in the bill. The cuts are directed to make things more efficent. Also, insurance compaines have subsities that the president wants to cut. Ca't wait to see the bill. Also, did you look up the hide admenment?

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Patriot Watch (Independent) - 7 months ago

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our quility of healthcare is very good. i agree. but the insurance companies don't let most american … Show full comment

Medicare officials recently proposed changes that could increase payments for some primary care services but reduce payments to many specialists. Cardiologists would be especially hard hit, with cuts of more than 20 percent in payments for electrocardiograms and 12 percent for heart stent procedures.
"'Cuts of this magnitude could cripple cardiology practices and threaten access to services for millions of patients,' said Dr. John C. Lewin, chief executive of the American College of Cardiology.

"Mr. Obama has been unable to dispel the concerns of older Americans because the health care bills in Congress are long, complex and evolving.

"Moreover, if a bill becomes law, no one can say for sure how it may be applied or extended. The 1965 law that created Medicare prohibited 'any federal interference' in 'the practice of medicine or the manner in which medical services are provided,' or in the operation of any institution providing health care.

"Sara Rosenbaum, a professor of health law and policy at George Washington University, called this 'a majestic message from Congress about how it expected the Medicare program to be run.'

"But the meaning of that guarantee has shrunk as Medicare officials and Congress have set more detailed standards for doctors, hospitals, nursing homes and others in Medicare."

The last three graphs are particularly prescient because advocates of expanded government always claim their proposals won't have dire consequences such as expanded government bureaucracy and regulation. Then when those consequences come about as predicted by critics, the program advocates invent scapegoats, usually in the private sector, to blame for the problems.
It's like the Peanuts cartoon. She ALWAYS jerks the football out of the way and Charlie Brown - that would be you and me - ALWAYS ends flat on his back.


Potion of the bill coming soon. When I do the debate is over. IT IS IN THE BILL

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Patriot Watch (Independent) - 7 months ago

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LA Times June 20

The first shoe dropped this weekend as President Obama announced another $313 billion in cuts to health care programs for the elderly and the poor. He has no other options because we are out of money. He is taking hospitals and other providers at their word that they will reduce costs. That's a problem because the record shows they can't deliver.

Yeah no rationing yet it is happening already

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Patriot Watch (Independent) - 7 months ago

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New York Times
July 15th
In the current U.S. debate over health care reform, “rationing” has become a dirty word. Meeting last month with five governors,++++++++++ President Obama urged them to avoid using the term,+++++++++ apparently for fear of evoking the hostile response that sank the +++++++Clintons’ attempt to achieve reform.

Clintons were honest you and OBAMA lie, lie, lie

It's called common sense. rational thought. Budget. Lack of money & resources when it's free

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Patriot Watch (Independent) - 7 months ago

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our quility of healthcare is very good. i agree. but the insurance companies don't let most american … Show full comment

You want more?

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Patriot Watch (Independent) - 7 months ago

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You did not respond to anything I said. So I assume I am right.

Disagree? Just read the versions of health care legislation in the House. One key proposal is to mandate an "essential benefit package" for every private insurance policy sold in the United States. Currently, individuals and employers usually make these coverage decisions. This legislation creates a new federal Health Benefits Advisory Committee that would decide instead.

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dcherry17 7 months ago

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I'm just gonna call you Thing 1 because it appears as if you are not sure what you are about. See … Show full comment

our quility of healthcare is very good. i agree. but the insurance companies don't let most americans experince that health care. do you remeber that lady who die in the waiting room???? do you know WHY???? she was an american citzen and since she didn't have health care she had to wait. while she waited she DIED!!!!! tell her family how good our healthcare is. go tell her family and see what happens to you. you need to watch more channels then fox news.

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dcherry17 7 months ago

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So if you would like to continue the conversation we will move on to your title. "Pullin Granny … Show full comment

lets debate! bring it. first, show me where it says there will be rationing in the bill? Second have you heard oif the hide admendment???? I won't help you either. this will answer your second question.......

come on my friend.......bring it on!!!!

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Patriot Watch (Independent) - 7 months ago

So if you would like to continue the conversation we will move on to your title. "Pullin Granny's Plug" You libs LOVE to use the term DEATH PANEL.

Would you like to debate that there will be rationing??? It is in the bill. That debate will last 3 minutes because the bill says so.

Did you know we will also fund abortion. the White House has specifically said ABORTION is NOT covered and it IS not in the bill. OHhhhhhhhh but according to the law it is in the bill. Do I need to prove that out or are you gonna do research on the topic and find out Iam right AGAIN.

Would you like the section on rationing???? would you like the name of the czar who's brother runs the White House who not more than 1.5 years ago said just the same??/

NO you wake up. Actually you do not have to. My Illinois Union friends will start to brn sht as soon as they find out they are forced into the government health plan.

your comments are non-sense. I can back up my comments. ITS IN THE BILL STUPID> READ IT.

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Patriot Watch (Independent) - 7 months ago

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i have a crazy question for you? does the insurance company ration care now? do they denie service? … Show full comment

I'm just gonna call you Thing 1 because it appears as if you are not sure what you are about.

See T1 I read most of the bill. I did not tune into CNN (Clinton News Network) or MSLSD for that matter. I pick and choice who I trust on FOX as well.

The American system is very good. It could be better. There are NUMEROUS steps that could be taken NEXT week that would be bipartisan. Congress and the Senate could post their highest pecentage of YEA votes in our countries history. But this is not what this is about and people like to still do not get. You and rossettieismyname just want it done. You have 100% faith that THIS government is going to give you a better system.

You want your government who has a hard enough time running the post office which just declared last week that they are broke. Cannot pay creditors. Social Security is broke. This is treason but you do not care. UFC fighters have to raise money (GOD BLESS THEIR SOLES) so our returning soldiers can have care. They run a cars for clunkers program and it is a disaster. OUR government OWES car dealers MONEY> It is called another car bail out with a twist of Environmentalist being stupid as usual. Do I need to go on or have I opened your eyes. deprogram yourself quick.

If I am working for the insurance comapny you are working for ACORN or OBAMA either one is not very honorable.

It has to do with rational thought. Being an AMERICAN not a socialist. The system can get better but you and other liberals will not allow it.

Pelosi said "It cannot be done without government option." Why not robot??????? Others say it can.

Conservatives suck for not having an alternative. So do not pretend like you know me. Thing 1 you do not know anyone in your life like me. If you did you would not of posted such a silly blog like this. You could not find 3 groups listed with same insurance.

For you to have listed veterans on this list makes me mad because you obviously have never been to a VA hospital or tried to make an appointment.

So before you interject something as important as my families health care you should do a little bit more living or reading.

Patriot Watch nor any Conservative or Independant on this site without a doubt wants reform. there has not been one of the before mentioned groups admitted to being an athiest on this site. All athiest on this site are LIBERAL. Point being the group I am in takes the time for service. Your group wants to mandate service.

REFORM:

1 a : to put or change into an improved form or condition b : to amend or improve by change of form or removal of faults or abuses

*Liberals are not calling for reform so STOP calling it reform. It's called government take over


TAKE OVER

: to assume control or possession of or responsibility for <military leaders took over the government>
intransitive verb
1 : to assume control or possession
2 : to become dominant

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dcherry17 7 months ago

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Anyone with half a brain can tell you this will not be a free for all. DCHERRY believes that there w … Show full comment

i think you are in a dream land. wake up my firend wake up! you are working for the insurance compaines without even knowing it. when you get to work. check your healthcare plan and find out what your cap it. it will scare you!

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dcherry17 7 months ago

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Anyone with half a brain can tell you this will not be a free for all. DCHERRY believes that there w … Show full comment

i have a crazy question for you? does the insurance company ration care now? do they denie service? Do they tell people that they hit their cap and the insurance company will no longer cover them. Why do people like you seem to be fine with this. i don't understand. WHY!!! But you and the rest of your buddies are so scare of somthing that is alrady happening in america. right now someone with health insurance is being told that their proceedure will not be cover becaues of a preexsiting condition, or that they hit their cap. WHY AREN'T YOU MAD ABOUT THAT......WHY!!!!!!

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Patriot Watch (Independent) - 7 months ago

Anyone with half a brain can tell you this will not be a free for all. DCHERRY believes that there will be no wait, no degration of services and no rationaing of services.

Who is in a dream world now?

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