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News Libertarians support transfer of Gitmo detainees

Libertarians support transfer of Gitmo detainees

Submitted by Good Ole Boy | 4 months ago

The Hill - In a letter circulated by the Constitution Project, 2008 Libertarian Party presidential nominee and former Rep. Bob Barr, American Conservative Union founder David Keene and Americans for Tax Reform President Grover Norquist say that civilian prisons and courts are safe and appropriate places to handle suspected terrorists. They specifically addressed Republican charges that bringing Gitmo detainees onto the U.S. mainland could elevate the risk.

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countryplowboy 4 months ago

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The one they are going to use looks like a junior college with a fence topped with concertina. Minim … Show full comment

You mean those right-wing radical commandos? It's a wonder they haven't toppled the government with their survival training and ability to survive without the help of Big Brother.

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Good Ole Boy (Independent) - 4 months ago

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Hey, I'm all for it. Move 'em to the heartland. There are two options and I like both. 1. The Gov … Show full comment

The one they are going to use looks like a junior college with a fence topped with concertina. Minimal to medium security at best. A Boy Scout platoon could break in.

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countryplowboy 4 months ago

Hey, I'm all for it. Move 'em to the heartland. There are two options and I like both.

1. The Government can buy some land and build a prison on it. I'm thinking Quadruple Max. Then build two moats. The inner one will be 50 feet deep and 50 feet across. This moat will be filled with freshwater crocs. Then the outer, it will be 100 feet across and 200 feet deep. This will be filled with saltwater and Great White Sharks. Around all of this will be Stadium lights and just outside that will be government built houses. The people living in those houses will be veterens, all armed and with the pictures of every inmate inside the prison.

2. Build a giant game reserve. Put all of the terrorists from gitmo in it. Randomly select veterens and give them a photo of each inmate, a Firearm of their choice, a digital camera and let 'em loose. Cash rewards will be given for every picture of a dead terrorist turned in. With people like Khalid getting the highest bouties.

See? And people say this isn't a good idea.

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Good Ole Boy (Independent) - 4 months ago

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Ever read the fourth through ninth amendments? You really need to understand what the Constitution d … Show full comment

When it talks about people it is talking about our citizens and though they are not citizens the people on in our country that have done crimes have been included .

This will be a propaganda lolapaloosa for the terrorists. The security will cost millions maybe Libertarians could pony up and pay for it and give the taxpayers a break.

What will you say to the families who lose loved ones are killed after the information is put out that endangers covert sources? US citizens in terrorist acts inflamed by the trial ?

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ironhead (Libertarian) - 4 months ago

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Apparently you have not read either document. The right to trial is not among the inalienable rights … Show full comment

Ever read the fourth through ninth amendments? You really need to understand what the Constitution does. It does not provide rights, it protects the people against government violations of our rights.

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Good Ole Boy (Independent) - 4 months ago

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I reject your statist conception of rights. Individual rights are not "given" by the Cons … Show full comment

Apparently you have not read either document. The right to trial is not among the inalienable rights.

http://constitutionus.com/
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/Human_Rights/geneva1.html

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ironhead (Libertarian) - 4 months ago

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Talk to your congressman and have them move to your house and then you can supervise them. They have … Show full comment

I reject your statist conception of rights. Individual rights are not "given" by the Constitution. Our rights are inalienable to our existence; they are observable in nature.

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Good Ole Boy (Independent) - 4 months ago

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Give me a break, you find another issue you and I disagree on and now I'm a blind LP partisan? Don't … Show full comment

Talk to your congressman and have them move to your house and then you can supervise them. They have no rights under the Geneva Convention. Do you think it is worthless? Our Constitution gives them no rights either, do you think it is worthless? The Libertarians will lose out big on this if they push it and make the party less legitimate.

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ironhead (Libertarian) - 4 months ago

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You don t live in Illinois. I'm beginning to think if the Libertarian party said the earth was flat … Show full comment

Give me a break, you find another issue you and I disagree on and now I'm a blind LP partisan? Don't make me laugh.

If anything will radicalize Muslims in this country, it will be the denial of their rights and liberties and a foreign policy that continues to make the ghost of Julius Caesar jealous.

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Good Ole Boy (Independent) - 4 months ago

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Well there went a signifigant amount of respect I had for Barr. It's not the security, it's the t … Show full comment

This is likely to hurt all Libertarians running for office and reduce support for the party, they sure lost any respect for them I had.

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Teikiatsu (Independent) - 4 months ago

Well there went a signifigant amount of respect I had for Barr.

It's not the security, it's the transfer of constitutional rights to non-Americans who want to burn the Constitution and replace it with Sharia law. If these men are tried in civilain courts they will be able to throw out any evidence gained during interrogations. They can choose to represent themselves and find out the names of their interrogators. They will turn the entire proceedings into a sham. This is why we have military tribunals and why they were kept on foreign soil.

Obama and Holder are, in a word: morons. They need to get a refund for their law degrees.

I'm sad to see Barr lumped in with them. I would have voted for him in 2008 if Obama hadn't beed such a threat (and still is.)

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Good Ole Boy (Independent) - 4 months ago

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I am pleasantly surprised to hear Bob Barr making this argument. I would have thought that Bob migh … Show full comment

You don t live in Illinois. I'm beginning to think if the Libertarian party said the earth was flat you would agree. These are overwhelmingly enemy combatants, ununiformed enemy combatants and deserve nothing other than a military tribunal.

They will radicalize muslims in the prison and may cause a security risk with possible jail break attempts by terrorists not yet caught (first and second generation muslim Americans).

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ironhead (Libertarian) - 4 months ago

I am pleasantly surprised to hear Bob Barr making this argument. I would have thought that Bob might have deferred to his old GOP position on something like suspected terrorist and their trials. I don't know much about David Keene. As for Grover Norquist, I take issue with him being called a libertarian, but I'm most surprised to see him supporting the idea that terrorist suspects could be tried in civilian courts. Good for them.

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