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scot 1 year ago
Rumor has it, Obama girls will attend private school.
http://www.politics.com/news/2815/rumor_has_it_obama_girls_will_attend_private_school/
scot 1 year ago
With this wonderful discussion on schools continuing you all should check out the video of John Stossel's 'Studpid in America' that I recently posted:
http://www.politics.com/video/Bx4pN-aiofw/john_stossel_-_stupid_in_america/
not a socialist (Republican) - 1 year ago
Reply to MrAmerica
interesting view with the Swedish schools. my basic thought was, just based on tuition, private scho … Show full comment
interesting view with the Swedish schools. my basic thought was, just based on tuition, private scho … Show full comment
and because governments don't account with a profit & loss statement.. they will never succeed like succesful businesses do.. we will put our child in private school no matter what the cost is.. you can choose as well.. so let us be individuals and you can be whomever you want as well.. just don't force your socialism on me.. i'm done
scot 1 year ago
Reply to MrAmerica
interesting view with the Swedish schools. my basic thought was, just based on tuition, private scho … Show full comment
interesting view with the Swedish schools. my basic thought was, just based on tuition, private scho … Show full comment
You have got the government totally backwards. Government does not work for all things. That is a fact. The private sector has far more success are less costs. And the government is NOT a collection of people working for a cause. Bureaucrats are career individuals pushing paper. If people were working collectively towards a cause we would see results, but we don't.
And it is a fact that most private schools spend less per student than public schools. You are warping numbers and analyzing non-correlated figures. Tuition is not the approach to analyze dollars spent. Especially since many schools have much lower tuition than 30K. And the costs on a private school vs a public school are higher, students not even in the equation. They are not subsidized like government schools are and have to front the full costs of other expenses.
Either way, education in America is in dire need of change. School options, decentralization, and education over politics must prevail or the US will never remain on top.
jdistefano (Libertarian) - 1 year ago
I went to public school. As a result I am more than confident that if I ever had children (and that is a big if), they would be home schooled.
Everything of use that I have earned, I learned either in college or on my own. The Department of Public Education is useless and an embarrassment to this country.
MrAmerica (Democratic) - 1 year ago
Reply to jdistefano
Not really. You made it really easy to make the reference by spouting all of the commie propaganda.
Not really. You made it really easy to make the reference by spouting all of the commie propaganda.
right, again no substance in your response... just name calling. shows your ability to debate. :-)
Leonard Shelby (Independent) - 1 year ago
Reply to jdistefano
Not really. You made it really easy to make the reference by spouting all of the commie propaganda.
Not really. You made it really easy to make the reference by spouting all of the commie propaganda.
HAH!
jdistefano (Libertarian) - 1 year ago
Reply to MrAmerica
ahh yes, the "he's a commie" comeback. classic but still used nearly 20 years after the co … Show full comment
ahh yes, the "he's a commie" comeback. classic but still used nearly 20 years after the co … Show full comment
Not really. You made it really easy to make the reference by spouting all of the commie propaganda.
MrAmerica (Democratic) - 1 year ago
Reply to Leonard Shelby
You really should consider changing your name to "MrAmerika."
You really should consider changing your name to "MrAmerika."
ahh yes, the "he's a commie" comeback. classic but still used nearly 20 years after the cold war ended. took a lot of thought didnt it..
MrAmerica (Democratic) - 1 year ago
Reply to bco2rgr
Total crap! As long as the government has their fingers in the education pie and the teachers unions … Show full comment
Total crap! As long as the government has their fingers in the education pie and the teachers unions … Show full comment
i agree with the second part of your rant... give the students basic skills and then let them go to a specialized secondary school. thats fine, as far as teachers go, they follow pay scales but then how would you grade how a teacher is doing?
if you grade them on their students grades than teachers would have an incentive to make their tests easier so that kids get a better grade. if you follow the "No Child Left Behind" strategy of standardized tests... you'll have teachers across the board teaching to the test, which doesnt really benefits students or promote creative and logical thought. so theres no real way to grade a teacher and promote/give them bonuses without it hurting the pupils.
Leonard Shelby (Independent) - 1 year ago
Reply to MrAmerica
interesting view with the Swedish schools. my basic thought was, just based on tuition, private scho … Show full comment
interesting view with the Swedish schools. my basic thought was, just based on tuition, private scho … Show full comment
You really should consider changing your name to "MrAmerika."
MrAmerica (Democratic) - 1 year ago
Reply to scot
Actually most private schools spend less per student than most public schools. Nearly every educatio … Show full comment
Actually most private schools spend less per student than most public schools. Nearly every educatio … Show full comment
interesting view with the Swedish schools. my basic thought was, just based on tuition, private schools spend at least 30K per student... thats how much it costs to enroll. and i dont know any public school district that spends even half that amount per pupil in the united states.
decentralizing and the whole "government doesnt work" argument is based on people who dont want it to work. lets not forget, the government is a collection of people working for a cause, which is the same as the private sector, minus the cause being "profit".
scot 1 year ago
Reply to MrAmerica
the highest per-student payment for a public school is like 11K per student.. thats the most the gov … Show full comment
the highest per-student payment for a public school is like 11K per student.. thats the most the gov … Show full comment
Actually most private schools spend less per student than most public schools. Nearly every educational study has shown this.
You cannot fix problems by throwing money at them. Any money issue is secondary if we cannot educate in the first place. We need to reevaluate and reform our schooling structure and system first and foremost. We could begin with dismantling the Dept. of Education, decentralizing and focusing on students, their needs and futures. Not on centralized testing or centralized government curriculum. Focusing on school choice options, and focus on parental rights is a much better direction. Not all students are the same and we should localize and diversify the fields of chice in our education system. The Sweedigh system is quite interesting, where a mix of government and independent schools operate under a fascinating school choice platform, it is not perfect, but certain aspects would be excellent mixed into US education. You should look into it.
Check out these resources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Sweden
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/07/26/news/Swedens-School-Revolution.php
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/3717744.stm
http://oldfraser.lexi.net/publications/critical_issues/1999/school_choice/section_06.html
http://www.hoover.org/pubaffairs/dailyreport/archive/2849056.html
bco2rgr (Republican) - 1 year ago
Reply to MrAmerica
the highest per-student payment for a public school is like 11K per student.. thats the most the gov … Show full comment
the highest per-student payment for a public school is like 11K per student.. thats the most the gov … Show full comment
Total crap! As long as the government has their fingers in the education pie and the teachers unions there will never be a fix to the education problem. Start paying teachers for what there worth. Instead of everyone gets the same pay no matter how p**s poor you are. You have tenure you can't be touched is garbage!!!! You start an incentive program for teachers who do extraordinary work and go above and beyond, I guarantee there will be a jump in education in this country. Or if you don't care for that do what other countries have done for decades. You give all kids primary education at the same level. Then based off of what their abilities are you send them to a secondary school that emphasizes these abilities. Not all kids have the intellect to be a rocket scientist and not all kids have the motor skills to be a machinist. Each person has abilities and they need to be accentuated. Not stifled.
MrAmerica (Democratic) - 1 year ago
the highest per-student payment for a public school is like 11K per student.. thats the most the government pays per student in any area... private schools costs 30K a year per student, not including fundraisers... so of course private schools will be better..
if we cut some of the defense budget and brought public school funding to the same level as current private schools, we would see a dramatic increase in the quality of a public school education
not a socialist (Republican) - 1 year ago
oh please ... he will put his children in private school. Public schools stink
scot 1 year ago
It has already be announced from a few sources that, for security reasons, his kids will likely attend a specified private school and that the Obama's have been given a list to choose from.
bco2rgr (Republican) - 1 year ago
Reply to Political Ninja
Crikey..DC Schools? The best he could do is send his daughters to a "Charter" school. The … Show full comment
Crikey..DC Schools? The best he could do is send his daughters to a "Charter" school. The … Show full comment
Well he is the one who speaks about change and equality and how we can't drive our SUV's anymore or have comfortable temperatures in our homes because the rest of the world won't stand for it. So why not start by putting his kids in schools that 99% of the rest of the world have to go to. PUBLIC education. The left is always touting how great public education is and that private schools or getting govt. out of the public education racket would be a decremental to the schools. PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS! I say.
Political Ninja 1 year ago
Crikey..DC Schools? The best he could do is send his daughters to a "Charter" school. The Charter school should be called, "The DC School for Obama's Daughters" and have a student body that includes two students.
For his sake, he shouldn't have to sacrifice his daughters' well-being. Pure and simple, DC Schools are horrid. But Michelle Rhee is doing a great job..seriously, if someone can clean them up, it is her.
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