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Obama hints at talks with Taliban Obama hints at talks with Taliban

Submitted by Pierre Sarkozy | 1 year ago

BBC - Obama has suggested there could be talks with moderate elements of the Taleban in Afghanistan as part of a process of reconciliation.

Obama told the New York Times that US forces in Iraq had persuaded some Islamic radicals alienated by the tactics of al-Qaeda to co-operate. He said there might be similar opportunities in Afghanistan, although the situation there was more complex. Asked if the US was winning in Afghanistan, Obama replied: "No".

Tags: Afghanistan, taliban, war, peace, diplomacy

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fakechinese (Democratic) - 1 year ago

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Thanks. Are you referring to a cleaned up reporting version for public viewing?

you got it!

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umbrage 1 year ago

Maybe he's smart enough to just hint at it.

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peabody (Independent) - 1 year ago

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Very well then. I just dont enjoy when online debates become more like personal jabs - it really … Show full comment

Thanks. Are you referring to a cleaned up reporting version for public viewing?

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fakechinese (Democratic) - 1 year ago

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Sorry. Neither insult or injury intended. Really did mean it, you are cool. Show full comment

Very well then.

I just dont enjoy when online debates become more like personal jabs - it really gets us nowhere and gets in the way of the original topic.

I enjoyed your post on the Gitmo article here: http://www.politics.com/news/7707/#comment_10136

Insightful and Correct.

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peabody (Independent) - 1 year ago

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Wow. Insult to injury. Not a pothead, never was but thanks. Show full comment

Sorry. Neither insult or injury intended.
Really did mean it, you are cool.

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fakechinese (Democratic) - 1 year ago

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You are so cool. I had to get off the pot so I could think straight. You? Show full comment

Wow. Insult to injury.

Not a pothead, never was but thanks.

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peabody (Independent) - 1 year ago

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THAT is an amazing point! I didn't even begin to think of that. As much as I have hope for humani … Show full comment

You are so cool.
I had to get off the pot so I could think straight. You?

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fakechinese (Democratic) - 1 year ago

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Sitting down to a chat is just what Obama is proposing. Progress, of course, can be made through di … Show full comment

THAT is an amazing point!

I didn't even begin to think of that. As much as I have hope for humanity, you are ultimately right; they will each be concerned with their own agenda. That will ultimately get in the way of honesty.

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peabody (Independent) - 1 year ago

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Take note that I never called this a solution. Even if I did, it wouldnt be a quick chat, a kiss on … Show full comment

Sitting down to a chat is just what Obama is proposing.
Progress, of course, can be made through discussion, if both are honestly discussing. What would suggest that either side would honestly discuss?

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hepsy 1 year ago

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But, war isn't working. What other option is there?

Good Ole Boy offered a sound solution:

"Coat all bullets with pork based lubricant, Add pork lard to all motar rounds, artillary rounds and bombs. Drop leaflets with the details on the new rounds in all battle zones."

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hepsy 1 year ago

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I will not take credit for this idea, The Brits used it a long time ago with great results. Coat … Show full comment

haha! History is good, yes?
The Politically Correct religionists would cry pork against that!

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fakechinese (Democratic) - 1 year ago

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If you're serious, I would like to talk to you about some property for sale...

very funny.

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fakechinese (Democratic) - 1 year ago

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You have to understand if you want to use the kid analogy it is like school kids fighting one of whi … Show full comment

Of course.

We are talking about two different world comings to an agreement.

It isnt going to happen anytime soon, but if we can bring them to our level, over time things will change.

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fakechinese (Democratic) - 1 year ago

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You're playing, right? If not, then you remind me of the idealist who can't separate fantasy from re … Show full comment

Take note that I never called this a solution. Even if I did, it wouldnt be a quick chat, a kiss on the cheek and we all go home hand in hand.

The solution was presented in the schoolyard example, yes; but in the reality of what the world faces today such a simple solution will never be brought about by as simple an idea of sitting down and having a talk.

Progress of course can be made through discussion, and it wont hurt anything.

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Good Ole Boy (Independent) - 1 year ago

I will not take credit for this idea, The Brits used it a long time ago with great results.

Coat all bullets with pork based lubricant, Add pork lard to all motar rounds, artillary rounds and bombs. Drop leaflets with the details on the new rounds in all battle zones.

We win.

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Good Ole Boy (Independent) - 1 year ago

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GOB: I am not defending the Taliban. And, yes, I despise violence against women in all forms. My … Show full comment

Their ideology does not permit concessions they will only expect them from us. They will lie to fit their agenda as lying to infidels is permisable. Read the Koran.

NATO couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag. Our guys will change the situation and the Taliban knows that and that is the reason they are willing to talk. Read the Koran and you will understand what I am saying is true.

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Good Ole Boy (Independent) - 1 year ago

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GOB: I am not defending the Taliban. And, yes, I despise violence against women in all forms. My … Show full comment

Their ideology does not permit concessions they will only expect them from us. They will lie to fit their agenda as lying to infidels is permisable. Read the Koran.

NATO couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag. Our guys will change the situation and the Taliban knows that and that is the reason they are willing to talk. Read the Koran and you will understand what I am saying is true.

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peabody (Independent) - 1 year ago

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But, war isn't working. What other option is there?

Knowing History, for a beginning, so we don't repeat it.

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EmilyR 1 year ago

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If it was just an ideolgy, maybe you could beat it out of them. What the taliban is, is quite demo … Show full comment

But, war isn't working. What other option is there?

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peabody (Independent) - 1 year ago

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GOB: I am not defending the Taliban. And, yes, I despise violence against women in all forms. My … Show full comment

If it was just an ideolgy, maybe you could beat it out of them.
What the taliban is, is quite demonstrative in its aversion to to moderation in anything. Their treatment of women is nothing better than draconian.

Their history also does not include discussion. Ask Daniel Pearl.

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EmilyR 1 year ago

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As a woman you should see the folly of dealing these people. Moderate Taliban is a contradicion in t … Show full comment

GOB: I am not defending the Taliban. And, yes, I despise violence against women in all forms.

My argument is practical....you can't beat somebody out of an ideology. But, you can show them the benefits of moderation, try to work with them, bring them into the fold.

Plus, it might be NATO's only shot. As of now, they're losing. Badly.

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bco2rgr (Republican) - 1 year ago

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"If we can just talk, everything will be peachy keene."

Thank you for that clarification.

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Good Ole Boy (Independent) - 1 year ago

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GOB: You're right. Typo, sorry. Should have written 'engaging Sunni moderates in Iraq'...

As a woman you should see the folly of dealing these people. Moderate Taliban is a contradicion in terms. They kill little girls that have the gaul to go to school. Then kill the teacher and her parents.

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umbrage 1 year ago

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Delusion of what?

"If we can just talk, everything will be peachy keene."

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bco2rgr (Republican) - 1 year ago

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Talking is good. Delusion is not healthy.

Delusion of what?

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