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Halowaydrummer (Republican) - 1 year ago
You are 100% right on this one. I wonder about the validity of the documents. If true the government … Show full comment
Good Ole Boy, they actually provide the documents. This article is actually just a gross misrepresentation of what was printed in the document by the threat assessment center for law enforcement.
The document itself simply says that these militant groups are likely to associate themselves with Ron Pauls Campaign for Liberty and with the Constitutionalist party. The statements made in the report are in no way a reflection upon any of the political candidates or parties.
It's no surprise militant anarchists would associate with a political party that leans toward a smaller government. That does not mean the political party supports or condones the actions of the militant groups.
It's kind of like when we say most serial killers are white males. It doesn't mean all white males should be suspected of being serial killers. It's simply one indicator in creating a profile.
Halowaydrummer (Republican) - 1 year ago
don't get out much.Do YOU?
A childish personal attack is always better than confronting me on the issue and answering my question. I get out plenty.
ironhead (Libertarian) - 1 year ago
If supporting a candidate who is a strict constitutionalist is synonymous with Rebellion, what exact … Show full comment
Don't misunderstand. When I say protecting individual rights, this most certainly includes persons and property. To do this, the police and the courts are required. There are other legitimate functions of government, such as protecting the commons - something that no one created (but not to the extent of the Al Gore's of the world, etc.).
Good Ole Boy (Independent) - 1 year ago
If you would bother to read the things that I post, I often criticize Obama and the current socialis … Show full comment
You are 100% right on this one. I wonder about the validity of the documents. If true the government is way out of control, more than I thought anyway.
Halowaydrummer (Republican) - 1 year ago
Ron Paul Liberty bumper stickers don't reflect Patriotism.They reflect rebellion.
If supporting a candidate who is a strict constitutionalist is synonymous with Rebellion, what exactly do you believe is politically righteous?
I'm not saying I agree with all of Ron Pauls ideas, however, the man is one of the few honest politicians I've ever seen and his ideas on government (although some of them are far-fetched IMO) are consistent.
Moreover, I LOVE when people throw down little buzzwords to encapsulate a political figure, say "anti-government." What does that mean? He's against all government? Or against certain kinds of government? Maybe he's anti-communist (that's a form of government, too).
Our country was founded on the backs of men considered by England to be anti-government, rebellious, and unpatriotic.
That said, Ironhead, I think the government also has the responsibility of balancing individual rights against the collective wellbeing of the people. If you disagree, what do you suppose we do for law enforcement? Should every person that disagrees with a government decision rebel? Wouldn't we just be left with thousands of warring factions with the next great idea if we allowed that to happen?
ironhead (Libertarian) - 1 year ago
answer the question,Lib.
If you would bother to read the things that I post, I often criticize Obama and the current socialist idiocy that is being foisted on us all. I point out to liberals that using the state to achieve ends they would desire only backfires on them in the form of bigger government, a threat to civil liberties and peace.
The Constitution itself is an indictment against the power of the state. Its very existence is a testimony that our founders had a disdain for governmental power and the possible tyranny that could take shape, even in the context of a limited republic. I am not an anarchist, and neither is Ron Paul. I believe in individual rights and the government's primary, legitimate role is to protect individual rights. Whenever the state threatens these natural rights, I will criticize it.
So, try to learn how to read before offering your vacuous thoughts, because they're wildly inaccurate and rooted in ignorance.
ironhead (Libertarian) - 1 year ago
Ron Paul is anti-Government.So are you.If you beleive in the constitution, why don't you object to B … Show full comment
Troll, please.
reddy (Republican) - 1 year ago
Wow. Pretty frightening - I live in Missouri and have a Ron Paul bumper sticker. You totalitarian … Show full comment
Ron Paul is anti-Government.So are you.If you beleive in the constitution, why don't you object to Baracks eroding and bending it.
ironhead (Libertarian) - 1 year ago
Wow. Pretty frightening - I live in Missouri and have a Ron Paul bumper sticker.
You totalitarian idiots need to read the Constitution and stop worshiping the state.
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