For those who can read: Why Trump's comparison between coronavirus and the 2009 pandemic is very misleading

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@JacePearce JacePearce · #Newsroom · 3 months ago
truth_hurts · 3 months ago

The conclusion of this (link below) is that the low mortality rate of common influenza only comes from one method of analysis where influenza is listed as the the cause of death. However, many deaths (especially >65 years of age) influenza either isn’t tested or listed on the death certificate when the patient actually dies from other cardiac or pulmonary problems originated and caused by influenza. If you include those deaths and with better reporting from many countries (on a global scale), you would find the influenza mortality rate is much higher than the numbers you often quote.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6815659/

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GardenRose · 3 months ago

So what? Are you a better expert than Dr Fauci who said the following: ". Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, estimates that the flu fatality rate is closer to 0.1%. But even accounting for the mild, yet undiagnosed cases of COVID-19, he said last Wednesday, it would still make it “roughly 10 times more lethal than the seasonal flu.”

  1. We have no vaccine for the coronavirus
  2. It spreads much more quickly, three times more quickly
  3. It targets lungs right away
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truth_hurts · 3 months ago

I guess you didn’t read my post.

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GardenRose · 3 months ago

What makes you believe I did not read your article? In that article, there is no mention of what you are saying about influenza not being listed on death certificates. Dr Fauci, who is an EXPERT, has obviously taken everything into account when talking about that death rate.

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truth_hurts · 3 months ago

“Neither the GLaMOR nor CDC estimates captures influenza-associated deaths ascribed to cardiovascular causes, indicating that the total mortality burden of influenza is likely to be substantially higher.”
For the umpteenth time, let me know when the numbers get close and I’ll admit I was wrong.

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truth_hurts · 3 months ago

“The pattern is strikingly similar. There’s no evidence here of any significant difference between how each outbreak was handled.” Really? Ummmm, we did nothing in 2009. No businesses closed, no travel closed (that I can remember), none of our States shut down, there was no stay at home mandate anywhere. Ludicrous.

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GardenRose · 3 months ago

Really? Let me refresh your memory, you seem to have forgotten it all:
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/trumps-h1n1-swine-flu-pandemic-spin/

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truth_hurts · 3 months ago

Again, tell me when we get close and then I’ll admit I was wrong. Until then, it’s all speculation.

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GardenRose · 3 months ago

If you are referring to truth_hurts, he is a smart man, but he only reads what suits him.

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truth_hurts · 3 months ago

The numbers are the numbers. I pray Covid-19 doesn’t prove me wrong but I’m pretty confident at this point that I’m correct.

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